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Animal rights activists are negative people but deserve compassion

In another example, the person heading the same animal rights organization was so desperate that she took reckless actions which are noted by the Anti-Defamation League (the nation’s premier civil rights/human relations agency) on its website under the heading “Extremism in America: Eco-terrorism?” The Anti-Defamation League states that the woman and her organization speak on behalf of the actions of extreme and militant animal rights groups that the FBI considers serious terrorist threats.

It has also been reported that people in her organization acted as brokers to fund the freeing of six animal extremists from jail, each convicted of a campaign to terrorize the employees of a New Jersey based company and its shareholders. In fact, Governor Chris Christie, then US Attorney in charge of the case, stated “…The verdict reveals these individuals for what they really were: thugs who went far beyond protected speech and lawful protest to engage in and incite intimidation, harassment and violence.”

How negative is one’s self image that it would cause them to abandon critical thinking and aid convicted felons?

Perhaps the most poignant example of negativity exhibited by animal rights activists is found while observing everyday life: The angler, hunter, or conservationist rarely protest the animal rights activist for their values or preferences.

Conversely, the animal rights activist makes an industry of harassing and demonstrating against the angler, hunter, and conservationist. What depth of negativity causes people to overtly act with hostility and domination towards people with differing views?

A wise person wrote that if we want others to be happy we must practice compassion, and if we want to be happy we must practice compassion. If so, it makes good sense for us to practice compassion for animal rights activists.

More information about animal rights activism and eco-terrorism can be found at the following link: http://www.njoutdooralliance.org/eco/terrorism.html

Anthony P. Mauro, Sr, is Chairman and co-founder of the New Jersey Outdoor Alliance, New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Conservation Foundation, and New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Environmental Projects. He has authored three books on conservation, hunting and the outdoors.



 
Comments (27)
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27 Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:08
Fenris
I have read the whole "hunting makes populations rise" theory. I come from a family of hunter and I call bullshit. Why do we have endangered species? Why do we have threatened species? What about some extinct species? That's because they were hunted! Some species are naturally on their way out, but most were hunted to threatened/endangered/extinct status. Look at the wolf for example. They are a hunted species. They used to be on the threatened/endangered list because they were hunted. Since they were in a protected status for a while they had time to repopulate, now that they are back on the hunting list, they will be diminished yet again. It's the same for EVERY hunted species out there. Moose and Elk are harder to find because they are being hunted so much.

I am not against hunting at all, just against over-hunting and hunting for fun. My family hunt for what we need, we use every part of the animal that we can and boil the rest for the dogs if it is edible. It should be a little more credible to hear all this from a person who's family are hunters who have seen less and less animals per year due to hunting.
26 Thursday, 15 December 2011 01:54
In defense
Daily Mall,

I read your blog and is this the best you've got for a zinger?

You write, "The conclusion of Mr. Mauro’s simple-minded commentary includes the following question (which is hardly an editorial coup de grâce): “What depth of negativity causes (animal-rights activists) to overtly act with hostility and domination towards people with differing views? An animal-rights activist could just as easily ask: “What depth of (narcissism) causes (Mr. Mauro) to overtly act with hostility and domination towards people with differing views?”

Really?? That's akin to an 8 year old saying, "No I'm not, YOU ARE".


Your blog represents exactly what Mr. Mauro is talking about. There are activist "leaders" who will go to any extreme, including misrepresenting themselves, their qualifications and their data to get their way. Moreover, these "leaders" have in fact, been tied to organizations which advocate physical harm to other human beings. Yet those who share similar anti-hunting views never bother to verify what they are being told or by whom. As a result, they are being mislead with completely baseless information being represented as fact. Emotions take over and facts are no longer a consideration. So Mr. Mauro suggests we must have compassion for those who are not aware they are being lead like kids to kool aid.

You then take issue with Mr. Mauro's credential's, calling him a "charlatan" worthy of the same scrutiny he writes about. Fair enough. Mr. Mauro represented himself as "“chairman and co-founder” of three related organizations and the author of “three books on conservation, hunting and the outdoors.” Yes, those facts are correct. Unlike the so called "activist leaders"; Mr. Mauro is representing himself for what he is. He's not being looked into by the FBI; hasn't made terrorist threats and hasn't presented any facts that cannot be verified. Have you ever looked into the organizations he is involved in or read his books? Are you aware of the indisputable data used in the development of his books? Have you ever looked into the rest of the organization to see how it works and what it does? Have you ever looked beyond an opinion article or are you doing precisely what activists do when they are stumped? Ignore the facts and instead make personal attacks. For example, take the Stop the NJ Black Bear Hunt Facebook page. There are several areas where a hunter politely asks anyone "I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell us what viable, cost effective alternative you propose that will keep the population in balance while at the same time have the added benefit of reducing incidents between humans/bears as was seen in the 2003, 2005 and 2010 hunts." You will not find one answer to the question. That is the crux of the conservationist argument for the bear hunt, but no one seems to be able to comeup with a viable, cost-effective response. Instead, it's reaponded to with emotion.

As to "hostility and domination", I interpret that as people wishing death or harm to others (as many activists wish upon hunters in these facebook type pages). If Mauro wanted to be "mean" he would have posted the names of the illicit activists (which I can assure you they are real people), but he did not. Mr. Mauro did not threaten anyone's lives or even interfere with their right to protest. He did not call upon hunters to take action against activists. He expressed his opinion and urged compassion.

Yet you compare him to Jim Jones??? I will remind you that Jim Jones lead over 900 people to (in his words) "commit an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.". It is this very type of disgusting comparison which Mr. Mauro would call hostile.

My first instinct was to tell you to go drink some more kool aid, but I'll show a little compassion instead.
25 Thursday, 15 December 2011 01:51
In defense
Daily Mall,

I read your blog and is this the best you've got for a zinger?

You write, "The conclusion of Mr. Mauro’s simple-minded commentary includes the following question (which is hardly an editorial coup de grâce): “What depth of negativity causes (animal-rights activists) to overtly act with hostility and domination towards people with differing views? An animal-rights activist could just as easily ask: “What depth of (narcissism) causes (Mr. Mauro) to overtly act with hostility and domination towards people with differing views?”

Really?? That's akin to an 8 year old saying, "No I'm not, YOU ARE".


Your blog represents exactly what Mr. Mauro is talking about. There are activist "leaders" who will go to any extreme, including misrepresenting themselves, their qualifications and their data to get their way. Moreover, these "leaders" have in fact, been tied to organizations which advocate physical harm to other human beings. Yet those who share similar anti-hunting views never bother to verify what they are being told or by whom. As a result, they are being mislead with completely baseless information being represented as fact. Emotions take over and facts are no longer a consideration. So Mr. Mauro suggests we must have compassion for those who are not aware they are being lead like kids to kool aid.

You then take issue with Mr. Mauro's credential's, calling him a "charlatan" worthy of the same scrutiny he writes about. Fair enough. Mr. Mauro represented himself as "“chairman and co-founder” of three related organizations and the author of “three books on conservation, hunting and the outdoors.” Yes, those facts are correct. Unlike the so called "activist leaders"; Mr. Mauro is representing himself for what he is. He's not being looked into by the FBI; hasn't made terrorist threats and hasn't presented any facts that cannot be verified. Have you ever looked into the organizations he is involved in or read his books? Are you aware of the indisputable data used in the development of his books? Have you ever looked into the rest of the organization to see how it works and what it does? Have you ever looked beyond an opinion article or are you doing precisely what activists do when they are stumped? Ignore the facts and instead make personal attacks. For example, take the Stop the NJ Black Bear Hunt Facebook page. There are several areas where a hunter politely asks anyone "I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell us what viable, cost effective alternative you propose that will keep the population in balance while at the same time have the added benefit of reducing incidents between humans/bears as was seen in the 2003, 2005 and 2010 hunts." You will not find one answer to the question. That is the crux of the conservationist argument for the bear hunt, but no one seems to be able to comeup with a viable, cost-effective response. Instead, it's reaponded to with emotion.

As to "hostility and domination", I interpret that as people wishing death or harm to others (as many activists wish upon hunters in these facebook type pages). If Mauro wanted to be "mean" he would have posted the names of the illicit activists (which I can assure you they are real people), but he did not. Mr. Mauro did not threaten anyone's lives or even interfere with their right to protest. He did not call upon hunters to take action against activists. He expressed his opinion and urged compassion.

Yet you compare him to Jim Jones??? I will remind you that Jim Jones lead over 900 people to (in his words) "commit an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.". It is this very type of disgusting comparison which Mr. Mauro would call hostile.

My first instinct was to tell you to go drink some more kool aid, but I'll show a little compassion instead.
24 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 17:26
What...
Why doesn't this 'compassion' you speak of extend to non-human animals?

Why is it "live and let live" until that means you have to stop killing?

Why is there a constant hypocrisy of "everyone's entitled to live how they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone" when 58 billion (yes, BILLION) creatures are killed unnecessarily for food alone each year?

And yes, it IS unnecessary. Unless you truly believe that vegans/vegetarians are mythical beasts like unicorns and dragons and secretly eat animal products to survive when nobody is looking.

Take your sentimentality, take your tradition, and take your skewed moral bias and try, for once, to hold it up to the scrutiny of logic and fact and apply it to something beyond selfish endeavors.
23 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 17:17
The Bad Guy
The ignorance in this comment section is only matched (and amplified) by it's arrogance.
22 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 14:53
lazarus
i am sorry you are upset that the bible considers your lifestyle of carnism a sin, don't get upset at me i am just the messenger. if you have a problem with the bible, curse and ridicule jesus and the judeo- christian god not me, you still have time to come to the lord , tomorrow may be to late, god be with you
21 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 13:37
Mike BB
This artcile has a voice of reason
20 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:59
LzySusn
Vegblogger is trying to be cool but you can see the waves of anger seething through the written words. It's like the highschool kid who thinks they have a good comeback but the adult sees it for what it is, a defensive reaction. Then you've got others trying to make a point but do so with the same lame stuff that Mauro is writing about. Then Mr. Hon trying to overthink his response. This is the funny stuff. The other comments are just freaky.
19 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 07:54
maggie b
That guy Lazarus is one disturbed individual! He kind of proves the point of the article. I do feel sorry for vegans that were raised as vegans from childhood. I wonder if it isn't a form of child abuse. But considering the negative effects on the body, it is probably a self limiting form of abuse.
18 Wednesday, 14 December 2011 06:17
VegBlogger.com
He writes "I include animal rights activists as negative people because they are not content to live their lives at peace with their world view, but instead work as despots to control those with differing ideas and values."

But this is not quite so cut and dry. Animal rights activists gain absolutely nothing from getting people to stop hurting animals. And that is exactly what they want. They see an injustice in the world and they want to help bring it to an end. It is no different than an abolitionist who fought to help end slavery, someone who tries to help end world hunger, or any other number of issues we face in the world. They see an injustice and they try to put an end to it and raise awareness about it.

For someone who wants to discuss negativity and say that animal rights activists are negative, I thought his article came across as being negative. He is negative and wants to change the way other people do things. He says he's against animal rights activists wanting to stop those who have different ideas and values, but HE wants to stop animal rights activists, who have different values and ideas of his own. So he's doing exactly what he is accusing them of doing! If he believes that people should all be at peace with the world and not try to instill change where they see an injustice, then all activists, volunteers, and others who try to make change should stop what they are doing. Sound good? I think not!

Animal rights activists are trying to help the world be more peaceful. There is no peace in killing, no matter how you do the deed. Peace comes from not harming other living creatures and helping the world to be more compassionate toward all living things, not just those that walk on two legs and foolishly rule the roost.

Furthermore, he opens his article by mentioning philosophers and compassion. Many philosophers were animal rights advocates and even vegetarians. Their thoughts on compassion were not just for humans, but for other animals as well!

"As long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of murder and pain cannot reap the joy of love." —Pythagoras
17 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 23:49
Heather Clemenceau
What actually is your education in Mr. Mauro? Precisely what qualifications do you have that would enable you to understand any biological precept?
16 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:52
Oldmanmark
These animal righters will try to sell you anything won't they. Amazing.
15 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:32
BarbB
Two thumbs up! I agree with JacksonJoe about the claim that hunting increasing animals that are hunted. These animal zanies will say anything and try to make it sound professional. I don't believe a word they say.
14 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:17
JacksonJoe
Looking over these response sure is enough proof that Mauro is on the money. It's good that somone has written what others have been thinking. Crazy stuff these animal folks have been telling us like hunting causing increases in the number of animals to all the terrorist stuff. I was wondering where these fancy sounding titles came from too, these folks just make them up as they go along. I'd like to read more stuff like this.
13 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:50
The Daily Maul
I have published, on my animal-rights blog The Daily Maul, a response to Mr. Mauro's inane, narcissistic, and poorly written commentary. Here is a link to my reaction piece: http://thedailymaul.com/?p=2922
12 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:43
Terry Ward
Mr Mauro and others here appear to be suffering from what the DSM IV describes as 'Animal Rights Derangement Disorder' disorder.

This crippling psychosis is very similar to the extremely contagious 'Vegan/PETA Derangement Disorder' disorder.

Symptoms include a pathological and debilitating fear of tofu, an uncontrollable full-body twitching whenever the word 'humane' is heard and an overwhelming compulsion to speak the words 'extremist agenda' over and over again.
11 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:49
KayRepresentNJ
But he's very positive when doing so.

The phenomenon is true about numbers of offspring increasing when a population of species is markedly reduced. Too bad his mom reproduced.
10 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:41
lazarus
the bible does not tell us not to smoke crack, so i guess it is ok to do so. your reasoning does not hold water you must look at entire bible, not one or two lines. unless you change your ways you will go to hell no mater what pat robertson, joel olsteen or your parents tell you. remember this until your dying day, you have been warned, you will have no excuse when you meet your maker, i pray god enters your heart
amen
9 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:11
Heather Clemenceau
You should read up on the Lotka-Volterra predator/prey equation. It would help you to understand what the Animal Rights individual was attempting to explain to you about exponential growth. She is quite right.

Before you are so quick to ask aspersions on an established biological fact, you should have a gander at the mathematics which form the foundation for the theories of population dynamics.
8 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:18
chienblanc4csi
No need to name names in this, the name of the organization you so diplomatically describe says it all - "Negotiation is Over".
The leaders of these groups are the Evil Twins to the Pied Piper, and are far more dangerous than most people understand. The FBI is not the only organization keeping track of these fools: the highly regarded Southern Poverty Law Center is very concerned. AR activists feel compelled by their delusional mental state to force others to take on their belief system or die, there is a line drawn in the sand for them, and they just can't allow anyone to 'harm' an animal. Now human beings, well that is a different story for these angry, depressed and hateful folks. Self-loathing needs to be shared, I guess.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/03/animal-rights-activist-if-you-spill-blood-your-blood-should-be-spilled/

I also suspect that their diet is a big factor in the negativity. Lacking critical amino acids, Vitamin B12 (humans cannot always absorb B12 supplements, can only benefit from animal protein sources) causes depression, agitation, sleeplessness, difficulty with concentration and learning, memory issues, a host of nervous system and mental functions, including basic intelligence. There is a reason why there are very few 'lifetime' vegans.

Keep up the good work.
7 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:52
Greg Hoone
Mr. Mauro,

You wrote, “But as I find it unpleasant to be around negative people I am struck by the fact that it must be far more unpleasant for the negative person, since they are forever bound to their own torment… I include animal activist as negative people because they are not content to live their own lives at peace with their world view, but instead work as despots to control those with differing ideas and values. ”

Let me start by putting all my cards on the table. I’m an animal rights activist who has many strong, negative feelings about blood sporter’s like you. Doesn’t mean I hate you personally. Just hate what you do and am devoted to stopping negative behavior towards animals.

And I have to say, I find it far more “unpleasant” to be around positive, wrong-minded folks- no matter how happy and upbeat they may be about their particular odious beliefs and subsequent behaviors.

And since I’ve surely offended you and have nothing else to lose, I might as well say it… The bulk of your commentary was pointless, mean-spirited, and small-minded to say the least. Instead of addressing the animal rights positions, you went out of your way to build up straw men and women to in turn tear them to pieces with accusations of misrepresentation and being under qualified to speak intelligently on the matters. Are these real people? How about a link or names or something to validate your statements? And what was your point anyway? Did you even take the time to listen to what the animal rights people had to say, or are they beneath you for lack of proper credentials? In case you are interested to know what your enemies actually believe, here’s a primer: http://www.animal-rights-library.com/index.htm.

Assuming the people you mentioned are real flesh and blood activist and not creatures of your own invention, I will agree with you that I find it quite frustrating when people tack on meaningless titles and degrees to attempt to validate their points (or disguise the lack thereof). I don’t care who you are or who you think you are. Just show me the facts and communicate your position. I’m perfectly capable of discerning truth from lies without being bullied into an opinion by “experts”.

Often I find the free thinking, self-educated and self-appointed ”specialist” to be far more enlightening than the narrow-minded PhD’s who are more often than not bound by their sectarian peers- all corporate and wage slaves who are out of a job if they don’t tow the party line which is always, “Money over morality!”

Am I a negative person? Depends how you look at it really. I despise hunting and any other forms of violence towards animals- including humans. In fact there are many things in this world I hate and am determined to fight against, but I consider that to be a positive attribute. Otherwise I’d be just another smiling apathetic coward.

Sincerely,

Greg Hoone

www.veganworldblues.com
6 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:29
Sheila in NJ
Hey, lazarus! I've seen your fake religious garbage on other web sites. Are you a paid sycophant, like Sarah_HSUS has finally admitted to being, or do you volunteer? The Bible does not tell us to become vegans -- in only one of many examples, when the Israelites were wandering in the desert for 40 years, G*d fed them with manna in the morning and quail (a bird, y'know) in the evening. Abraham was ready to sacrifice his son Isaac, but G*d, after testing him, gave him a sheep (an animal) to sacrifice instead.
5 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:42
Vet Barnes
What one has to consider is the cult like nature of the animal rights movement. They do not eat meat and thus are suffering from irrational thinking. Human beings need meat for the essential nutrients and active VB12 that can only be found in the correct proportions in meat. They lie to the public about what human beings need to eat in order to promote their irrational view to the public. They manufacture degrees and expertise that is not based upon science. In fact they eschew all science and see it along with anyone who is a pet owner, farmer, rancher, or medical researcher as people they must attack. They refuse to recognize reality even when one of their own comes to their senses and realizes that meat is necessary to a healthy diet. Instead of recognize the danger to their own health and the welfare of their children they continue along this dangerous path. So far, five children from vegan parents have died in this country from malnutrition despite the warnings of their physicians. Their irrational parents refused to feed them what they needed to live despite the obvious condition of their children. This is not a group to ignore, it is a group that we must fight as they no longer are able to think rationally. The lack of VB12 results in a brain that can no longer be considered functional or rational.
Another issue to consider is the amount of money and control this brings to many of them. All of us involved with animals in any way should support one another. The hunters and anglers are now just experiencing a little of what the pet breeders and farmers have experienced with this cult. We need to pull together and support one another as this cult like the squeaky wheel have a lot of money to grease our representatives bank accounts. A bill before congress called the PUPS bill is their first step to control what you do with all animals. Although you may only consider them just negative, they are working very hard to stop your way of life and they do it a little bit at a time by changing the public's opinion of what you do. Remember that HSUS and PeTA both said they want the public to think of hunting and fishing like drunk driving in the minds of the public. You cannot ignore them any longer if you want your rights. Its time to join together to fight this dangerous menace to our country and our rights as human beings.
4 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:01
Silvia
Finally some honest commentary and it's also right on target.
3 Monday, 12 December 2011 20:56
Terry Ward
Maybe it's just that there are SO many knuckleheads lurking around that we just came to prefer animals.....

Animals over knuckleheads, that is.
2 Monday, 12 December 2011 18:55
Laura Johnson
Well, I think there is another aspect to the animal rights radicals, those who are desperately seeking to convince others, including legislators and law makers, that their position is the correct one in regard to animals. I think that aspect is that these people suffer from some kind of mental illness...an illness which makes them feel they absolutely MUST make everyone else believe like they do and live like they do. They are what used to be called "true believers" in that they think their belief is the only correct path to follow. Now, they don't just follow the path themselves, they work diligently to FORCE the rest of us to follow it too. That is clearly fascist and totalitarian and does not fit in our democracy...it is against everything democracy stands for...freedom of belief and freedom to act as long as one does not negatively affect others.
1 Monday, 12 December 2011 18:34
lazarus
the bible counsles against the viewpoint Mr. Mauro. and the consequence of supporting him is hell. you have been warned, until your dying day remember this counsel, you will have no excuse when you meet your maker, sorry, to burst your bubble, but you should thank me for giving you a chance to repent. god help you

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