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Ron Paul hitches his wagon to Texas secession principles

ronpaul_optBY GINA G. SCALA
NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM

It should come as no surprise that Ron Paul, the departing Republican congressman from Texas, defends the idea of secession.

Wading into the divisive political debate this week with comments on his official House of Representatives website, Paul said, “While I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.”

There are actually secession petitions for all 50 states. Texas has the most support with more than 115,000 signatures as of Nov. 20, according to Yahoo! News.

“Keep in mind that the first and third paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence expressly contemplate the dissolution of a political union when the underlying government becomes tyrannical,” Paul said on his website.

With or without Paul stirring the pot, what are the chances breaking up with the United States would win a legal challenge?

“No state, however frustrated some of its citizens may be with the present state of government in America, is going to be able to leave the Union and go its own way. That is one of the most firmly settled issues on the meaning of the Constitution,” Constitution Daily contributor Lyle Denniston said.

In 1869, the Supreme Court ruled, in the case of Texas v. White, the only conjectural conduit to secession is a constitutional amendment. That position was affirmed in 2006 by Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote, "If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, “one Nation, indivisible."

“Secession is a deeply un-American principle. It is a principle that posed the greatest existential threat to the United States of America and was vanquished by our greatest president. [...] The bloodiest war in the nation's history was fought over the question of secession and the side which tried to destroy the United States lost. That settles it,” Robert Schlesinger, managing editor for opinion at U.S. News & World Report, wrote.

Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement, recently told Politico he did not believe his organization’s progress was solely about President Barack Obama winning re-election.

“This cake has been baking for a long time — it’s the Obama administration that put the candles on the cake and lit it for us,” he said.

 
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7 Sunday, 25 November 2012 01:29
WatchingMarcitz
Texas should also consider that some may actually want them to go now that its a possibility. Here is the OTHER petition from non-Texans who also take it seriously and would like to see them go.

Sign this petition instead and send on to others.

http://wh.gov/I9Nc
6 Friday, 23 November 2012 17:12
penfold
Anytime lefties argue "might makes right", you know they're on the losing end of the argument. "We fought a war over this, the secessionists lost, that means the Union can do whatever it wants!"

But for the moment, let's assume it is illegal. I don't think it is but let's run with their premise. Texas has the right to split up into as many as five states if it wants and it needs only the cooperation of the Texas governor and the Texas legislature to do it. It can be done 100% independently of Washington. So if a Texas governor wanted to play hardball, he could simply call the President (whoever that may be at any given moment) and tell him that Texas wants out of the Union and will leave. If he opposes that in any way, Texas will drop any notion of secession and split into five states. Each of those states is entitled to two Senators. What would you like to bet that each of those new Senators will be a Republican?

Either let Texas leave or lose the Senate. Your choice. Call my secretary when you make up your mind.
5 Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:53
John Appleseed
When Americans keep losing their wealth to unlawful taxation and their liberty to unlawful legislation, they reserve the right to secede...
4 Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:48
Bubba
Peaceful secession is the key. Texas secession should be a popular idea for Republicans and Democrats alike. If Texas was gone, all US presidents thereafter would (most likely) be Democrats. Sacrificing Texas for continuous single party Democratic rule might be appealing to the liberals. The Democrats don't want to waste the next four years in congressional gridlock when they could have just said goodbye to Texas and moved the nation "forward".

Conservatives want a place to escape from liberal policies like: government health care, 2-years of unemployment insurance, cap-and-trade carbon taxes, income redistribution, global warming, massive sovereign debt, and crony capitalism like Solyndra.

Texas secession can be a win-win opportunity for all Americans. I'm not saying its legal at all, but everyone just might allow it to happen once they see the mutual benefits. Additionally, post-secession TX-US relations should be warm and friendly like the US and Canada.
3 Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:43
Bubba
Peaceful secession is the key. Texas secession should be a popular idea for Republicans and Democrats alike. If Texas was gone, all US presidents thereafter would (most likely) be Democrats. Sacrificing Texas for continuous single party Democratic rule might be appealing to the liberals. The Democrats don't want to waste the next four years in congressional gridlock when they could have just said goodbye to Texas and moved the nation "forward".

Conservatives want a place to escape from liberal policies like: government health care, 2-years of unemployment insurance, cap-and-trade carbon taxes, income redistribution, global warming, massive sovereign debt, and crony capitalism like Solyndra.

Texas secession can be a win-win opportunity for all Americans. I'm not saying its legal at all, but everyone just might allow it to happen once they see the mutual benefits. Additionally, post-secession TX-US relations should be warm and friendly like the US and Canada.
2 Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:13
Jefferson
So I suppose that since Great Britain considered the colonies seccession to be illegal..that was end of story.... I dont care what some stupid court justices say...its in our Declaration of Indepence and it's not forbidden in the Constitution, therefore according to the Tenth amendment it is the preogitive of the States to decide this question. Seccession is indeed a very American Principle..orginating from our very founding. Case closed.
1 Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:52
boed
The American dream is that any man can elevate his financial status by hard work and ingenuity. Furthermore you should be able to endow your progeny with the benefits of those efforts without the government taking them in death.

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