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Are some folk actually considering lending credence to the wretched argument that it's a woman's fault (for wearing a short skirt) that she got raped? That it's a Convenience Store Clerk's fault for getting robbed and shot because he/she had money in the register/safe? That it's a person's fault for getting killed by a drunk driver because they were driving/biking/walking(etc...) while this person was out driving drunk? Or that a property owner is at fault for having a building in the way of a drunk driver when the driver drove into the building? Forgive me for thinking this way, but that is the impression I am getting with the (very brief) overview that was written above. The date rape thing is one of the perfect examples. It isn't a question of whether a person, who is given a date rape drug without their knowledge, ingests said product, it is a matter of the raper deciding whether or not to rape that person. Governing S/M is a series of "honor" rules. Such as, if a safe word is uttered, the activities are stopped immediately. If a person passes out, the activities are stopped immediately. It is not a matter of whether or not pain is inflicted, it is a matter, if the "Dom" takes things just a bit far and the "Sub" says the safe word/passes out/etc..., and the "Dom" ignores the signal(s). If the word gets out, that "Dom" gets ostracized by the community. That isn't a written rule, but it is widely understood. Safety is the first concern, followed by pleasure. Saying it is the victim's fault (in part) that they were attacked is one of the worst cop out answers ever given by any single person. I won't say they should be beaten, because I would be too tempted to reason my way out of punishment using their same excuse. "I'm sorry your honor, but it wasn't my fault. They were asking for it. They were wearing a small brain." By their own argument, they would be partially at fault for me nearly killing them for their stupidity. So I will not be beating them, because I know I wouldn't get away with it, and neither should anybody else.