BY BOB HOLT
NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM
In a lawsuit filed by a 16-year old Rhode Island girl, a federal judge has ruled that a prayer that has been in Cranston High School West for 49 years had to be covered.
Atheist Jessica Ahlquist has been battling since 2010 to get an 8-foot banner removed from her high school auditorium. It contains a prayer that a student wrote in 1963.
The teenager has been dealing with consequences from Cranston, a highly Roman Catholic city. She has been receiving threats from social networking sites like Twitter and Facebook, and had been receiving police escorts to classes. She had planned to take time off from school, but according to WPRO News, Ahlquist posted on Twitter that she plans to graduate from Cranston High School West in 2013.
The New York Times reported that the prayer began, “Our Heavenly Father,” the prayer begins, “grant us each day the desire to do our best, to grow mentally and morally as well as physically, to be kind and helpful,” and ended with “Amen.” Ahlquist said, “It seemed like it was saying, every time I saw it, ‘You don’t belong here.’ The eight-foot prayer has been covered with a tarp since the decision.
According to ABA Journal, a state representative called Jessica “an evil little thing” on a talk radio show, and three florists refused to deliver her roses sent from national atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation.
WPRI.com reported that the Cranston School Committee had a budget meeting scheduled on Wednesday, but the debate quickly turned to the banner. Police had to be called to contain the crowd. And Cranston School Committee member Frank Lombardi said he is beginning to receive threatening e-mails.
Meanwhile, Ahlquist started a Facebook group that calls for the banner's removal. The group currently has over 5,000 members.
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please, keep it away from me, your religion. it makes us all a little too stupid.
A word should be added about the common canard that this is all about people easily offended. We’re not talking about the freedom of individuals to say or do something others find offensive. We’re talking about the government weighing in to promote religion. Under our Constitution, our government has no business doing that--REGARDLESS of whether anyone is offended. While this is primarily a constitutional point, it is one that conservatives--small government conservatives--should appreciate from a political standpoint as well. While the First Amendment thus constrains government from promoting (or opposing) religion without regard to whether anyone is offended, a court may address the issue only in a suit by someone with "standing" (sufficient personal stake in a matter) to bring suit; in order to show such standing, a litigant may allege he is offended or otherwise harmed by the government's failure to follow the law; the question whether someone has standing to sue is entirely separate from the question whether the government has violated the Constitution.
I don't know. I just think that we Christians need to realize that we're not being the good example we're supposed to be. Maybe then, we can just be able to get over ourselves and just have a mutual understanding with those that are different from us. Because the Lord loves all, be they Christian, Atheist, Jewish, or anything underneath the sun and stars.
This girl has just adressed her constitutional and human rights. Bravo for caring about the society. There is nothing worse then close minded people supporting just one of the sides while they don't even intend to understand eachother.
No problem,,, will start working on removing from everything
(such BS)
Man lives as if he will never die but the reality is you will die one day. The fact that you put god last is so hypocritical because there is only one certainty in this life and it is, you will die. Chritianity is a religion of reason would teaching children simple tenants such as the ten comandments really do harm. Love is what matters the most.
'Rabbi Amy Levin, vice president of the Rhode Island Board of Rabbis, said she has spoken with former Cranston West students who felt uncomfortable with the banner when it was put up in their school nearly 50 years ago. She said the families and individuals she talked with were afraid to make their stance known during an era of such religious fortitude.
“Jessica, 50 years later, managed to give voice to their discomfort,” said Levin.'
And look at the retaliatory storm, even now.
There is a lot of history that surrounds all the religions that exist outside of what is written in the religious text. Here are some not so nice things the myth Jesus says.
Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
"And that servant [slave], which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes." (Luke 12:47) He never denounced servitude, incorporating the master-slave relationship into many of his parables.
By the way the word Lord comes from Europe. A Lord was a land owner. You could not leave the Lord (land owner) without his permission. If you did you would be captured/ punished or killed by the Lord…….Look up the futile system in Europe. Why do you think Europeans left Europe? It is pure ignorance to say Jesus is Lord………
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)
The burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (John 15:6)
When one of his disciples requested time off for his father's funeral, Jesus rebuked him: "Let the dead bury their dead." (Matthew 8:22)
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14
Subjection: Bring, make under domination or control, esp. by conquest.
Question? How is the bible much different from Islam? I can guess the answer to this question would be but Jesus said to love. This being true the myth Jesus said to love but the word love only means affection. It does not mean understanding or empathy.
The most stringent controls on speech in the colonial period were controls that outlawed or otherwise censored speech that was considered blasphemous in a religious sense. A 1646 Massachusetts law, for example, punished persons who denied the immortality of the soul. In 1612, a Virginia governor declared the death penalty for a person that denied the Trinity under Virginia's Laws Divine, Moral and Martial, which also outlawed blasphemy, speaking badly of ministers and royalty, and "disgraceful word.
Our founding fathers were mostly agnostic, atheist or deist. Thomas Jefferson only mentioned the word god as in wanting to know the nature of god? Another words he was questioning the existence of there being a god.
The word god comes from the German word Gott or Gotten/Godin which is derived from the Norse male myth deity Wotan/Odin. So you see the word god is derived from mythology as well as all religions are.
Jessica you most certainly made a most right full educated decision to become an atheist. One of my favorite founding fathers who sparked the American Revolution with his writing of Common Sense co-created a new found beginning for the opportunity to have freedom of speech ,the freedom to assemble peacefully,the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from those who may want to harm us for to many still want to do, freedom of the press & of course freedom of religion as well as freedom from religion that established itself from separating religion from government for which it cannot establish.
The following are some links that address inquiry of information in regards to religion and political history.
Truth Be Known http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm
Jesus Never Existed http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/index.html
The Founding Fathers were not Christian http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
The Naked Truth http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8251447278663885234#
Definition of Theos (found on portion of page that reads “History of the Term” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology
Jessica I wish you all the best and much happiness & success…
Keeping Common Sense
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER,
GRANT US EACH DAY THE DESIRE TO DO OUR BEST, TO GROW MENTALLY AND MORALLY AS WELL AS PHYSICALLY, TO BE KIND AND HELPFUL TO OUR CLASSMATES AND TEACHERS, TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AS WELL AS OTHERS. HELP US TO BE GOOD SPORTS AND SMILE WHEN WE LOSE AS WELL AS WHEN WE WIN. TEACH US THE VALUE OF TRUE FRIENDSHIP. HELP US ALWAYS TO CONDUCT OURSELVES SO AS TO BRING CREDT TO CRANSTON HIGH SCHOOL WEST.
AMEN
At the Begining it had a header school prayer, please change it as you read to SCHOOL REQUEST. THANK YOU
Maybe then we would see less self-centered and self-obsessed individuals in this world and more community-minded people spending their time and effort truly helping people overcome the evils in this world... instead of covering up a silly banner.
The amount of hate being directed towards this kid is despicable
“grant us each day the desire to do our best, to grow mentally and morally as well as physically, to be kind and helpful"
she should become an activist to bestow these thoughts to others, these words shouldn't be covered up.
Praise Little Baby Jesus.