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Feb 01st

President Obama’s birth certificate controversy could be fundraiser for Hawaii

BY BOB HOLT
NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM

President Barack Obama's supporters in the Hawaii legislature are looking to turn the questions about Obama's birthplace into a fund-raising opportunity. They have introduced a bill that would allow anyone to get a copy of his birth records for a $100 fee.

The idea behind the measure is to end skepticism over Obama's birthplace while raising a little money for a government with a projected budget deficit exceeding $800 million over the next two years.

The Associated Press reports the Obama campaign issued a certification of live birth in 2008, an official document from the state showing the president's Aug. 4, 1961, birth date, his birth city and name, and his parents' names and races.

Many Obama skeptics claim that he may have actually been born in Kenya, his father's home country, and not in the tropical state of Hawaii.

Elsewhere, Arizona Republican Judy Burges has introduced a bill that requires candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

Earlier this week a bid to prove he was born in the US by releasing the certificate was blocked by 'privacy laws.'

That forced Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that Obama was born outside Hawaii, according to his office.

Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, launched an investigation last month into whether he can release more information about the president's Aug. 4, 1961 birth.

According to Yahoo News, state Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said.

The $100 fee bill would change the privacy law which bar the release of birth records unless the requester is someone with a tangible interest, such as a close family member.

According to Mail Online, the controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, 'No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.'

Hawaii's health director said in 2008 and 2009 that she had seen and verified Obama's original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama's birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.

Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo again confirmed last week that Obama's name is found in its alphabetical list of names of people born in Hawaii, maintained in bound copies available for public view.

 
Comments (15)
15 Tuesday, 01 February 2011 11:55
sjk
Maybe some of you should learn to Google a little better:

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Wow
14 Tuesday, 01 February 2011 02:48
Joe Johnson
I'm concerned about the level of literacy in the United States. With the exception of comment number 12 (which, surprise, is the only one not written by a conservative), each contribution above is rife with grammatical errors and or misspellings.
Is it just possible that everyone's confusion about the President's birth certificate stems from the fact that they just haven't had very much education?
13 Monday, 31 January 2011 04:05
Carol in Carolina
The place of birth is such a smoke screen. The fodder for debate and due cause for a judicial congressional hearing is the fact that NATURAL BORN CITIZEN must be of TWO soil born American Citizens. His father never was a citizen of the US. The only President that did not have two America soil born parents at the time of his birth (other than citizens at the time of the signing of the Constitution) was CHESTER ARTHUR. His father was not born in America even though he did become a "NATURALIZED CITIZEN" years before Arthur became President. ARTHUR WAS NEVER ELECTED PRESIDENT. He was the VP that took office when a sitting President died and finished out his term.
The controversy over ARTHUR'S FATHER just being a NATURALIZED CITIZEN and not a SOIL BORN CITIZEN caused such an uproar that it is said that this was the reason that ARTHUR DID NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
Not Fox News nor any major right winged pundit dares even discuss anything about Obama's eligibility factors lest they be lumped with "Birthers" who are now just ridiculed as Racist and kooks.
He really really is not eligible to have ever been put on the ballot. But Obama is a puppet ...I just wonder about the power of his puppet master.
12 Sunday, 30 January 2011 23:09
ESB3
Why not sell it for $800 Million each request. There are enough crazy right-wing nut jobs (I know, redundant) with money that will buy it.
11 Sunday, 30 January 2011 22:31
Charles Krothammer
What is the role of Obama, Palosi, Reid and Biden in the cover up of Obama's Venting process for eligibility? We know all the above signed a certification form but then switched it for a form that had the certification removed and then sent to the States as required by law? This was a deliberate act? Clearly to keep them from a future indictment for Treason? What about Obama social security number? Experts say it was issued to a man from Connecticut who died long ago but was never made inactive as required by law? Obama then mysteriously ends up with this mans social security number? Why is it the media won't ask the experts or check on this themselves, would Obama retaliate?
10 Sunday, 30 January 2011 22:25
William F Horan
I must ask is this Yet more SPIN and propraganda to distract the American people from this clear and present danger of a constritutional nature?

That is does aka Obama or what ever his name is meet the constitutional requirements for POTUS regradless of where he was born? Furthermore if so then why all the cover up by aka Obama? Did not Water Gate teach us that the Cover Up some times is even the biger crime!

The congress must act to resolve this distraction at once. If necessary we can weather yet another replacement of a POTUS. After all we are a nation that subscribes to the rule of law and not men.
9 Sunday, 30 January 2011 22:17
Doc Holiday
Once upon a time a man wanted to control the most powerful country in the World and all it's army's, Navy's, Airforces, FBI and CIA. He would carry a brief case that could launch nuclear weapons at any moment. To get this job he only had to lie to 330,000,000 people and promise them if they gave him $1,000,000,000,000 he could say them all from losing their jobs. He would also lie about who he really was and what he would do with the money, he would change his name, twice and give his Union buddies the money and they would give it back to him in campaign contributions. The 330,000,000,000 people gave him the job but when it turned out the money went to his buddies and unemplyment went up he turned his back on the people calling some of them his enemy. He refused to prove he was constitutionally eligable to hold office, he even spent their money to hire lawyers to keep the public away from his records. The public grew angry and demanded he show his records of birth but he then called them Racist for asking and ridiculed them as being Birthers. The News media would not ask him for his records because they knew he had none to show. The people keep asking for his records but he only stonewalled more laughing loudly in their faces you will see no records. The story is not over yet because this story is about Treason and the people always win in the end.
8 Sunday, 30 January 2011 15:56
Independentview
The notices were put in the paper after the Certification of Live Birth was given. Barry could have been several weeks old when his mother applied for the Certification. All she had to do was walk into their office and show an electric bill with a Hawaii address. That's all. If Hawaii refuses to to let anyone see the records then exactly how did Snoops get the photos of what they say is Barrys Certification.
President Barack Obama was born in Mombasa,British Protectorate of Kenya in 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital.

Lucas Daniel Smith personally obtained the birth certificate on February 19, 2009.

www.WasObamaBornInKenya.com

www.youtube.com/inspectorsmith
6 Sunday, 30 January 2011 14:16
Northeast Elizabeth
"birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama's birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu."

The 2007 Certification doesn't mention Kapiolani. The newspaper articles don't mention Kapoilani. I bet Kapiolani isn't mentioned in that "list" of people born in Hawaii, either. Because he wasn't born at Kapiolani. Or in Hawaii.
5 Sunday, 30 January 2011 12:54
NOBAMA 2012
Come on fellas...give Barry, I mean Hussein, I mean Barack, I mean Soetro, I mean Obama a break...it hasn't been easy being a Muslim-Marxist-1/2 White-Grifter for 46, I mean 47, I mean 48, I mean 49 years...it's tough keeping up with all those names, addresses, socialist, I mean social security numbers. LMAO

Besides, Obozo has been the best thing to happen to the GOP since Jimmy Carter!

And with Oboza, Pelosi & Reid in the "D" party leadership for the next two years, it practically guarantees a GOP "Hat Trick" come 11/2012. BIG SMILE

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O'Rourke

NOBAMA 2012
4 Sunday, 30 January 2011 08:24
ronnie
Have you wondered how Obama using a fake birth certificate was certified as a U.S. citizen? Palosi, Reid and Biden all Vented Obama but the crazy thing is they used two different forms, one that certifed Obama but then removed the certification wording on the form and sent it to the states? To me it looks like we have a conspiracy to commit Treason? I think any investigator would agree and it smell fishy. There is just one problem, no one in the media can check anything that has to do with Obama's birth certificate or will be labled a Birther. It may turn out that being a Birther meant you are a Patriot!!!!!
3 Sunday, 30 January 2011 07:58
B Steadman
Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. This may explain why he refuses to allow Hawaii to release of a long-form copy of his birth certificate. A high resolution copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at WasObamaBornInKenya.com

The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate directly from the birth hospital on February 19, 2009 is included as part of his 'July 4, 2010 Letter to Congress', which is also available for free download at the same website.
2 Sunday, 30 January 2011 04:57
Peter K
They won't be selling a copy of the original state of Hawaii birth certificate because there isn't one .They will be selling a computer gen. copy such as we saw during the campaign .

The Gov. has backed off saying he saw "Barry" as a new born and has since told his friend Mike Evans that his first memory of Barack is of him playing t-ball while he watched with his father . This is impossible since Barack sr left the island for good before his t-ball years . Barack was also in Indonesia during his t-ball years.

The President could and should put an end to all of this by agreeing to release all of his records that he has fought to keep sealed .
1 Sunday, 30 January 2011 00:15
borderraven
http://www.scribd.com/doc/47774479/The-US-Natural-Born-Citizen-V1-0

1. US Natural Born Citizens are children:
a. conceived of two lawfully married parents, and
i. the parents were legally married at the date and time of birth, and
ii. the child was born in the United States, and
b. the child is a legitimate child, not produced by
i. artificial insemination, or
ii. test-tube, or
iii. Petri dish, or
iv. surrogate mother, or
v. genetic-splicing, and
c. the child is not
i. a stepchild or
ii. adopted, and
d. the child is a direct-blood descendant of two US citizens who at the date and time of the child’s birth were:
i. two US Citizens (per the Fourteenth Amendment), or
ii. two US Natural Born Citizens (described above), or
iii. a US Citizen (per the Fourteenth Amendment), married to a US Natural Born Citizen.

Published at: http://www.scribd.com/silverbull8

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